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melandrus elite · Dec 22, 2008, 07:58 PM // 19:58

If these two guilds (both arguably the best GvG guilds in guild wars) faced off with their allstar line-ups who do you guys think would win.

Burton2000 · Dec 22, 2008, 08:15 PM // 20:15

Umm rawr every single day. This topic is quite bad though.

AnonTerror · Dec 22, 2008, 08:23 PM // 20:23

Timeframe is a big issue. The average top 100 players today would be elite level back then, after all this time people have gotten the chance to improve and master basic skills and tactics.

Even without that in consideration. Rawr easily. Their defensive spike build is impenetrable and damn near unbeatable. Well, defensive spike builds in general are (see: NOW build warsing Rawr two monthlies ago by adding even more defense).

credit · Dec 22, 2008, 08:30 PM // 20:30

how many times has this topic come up.

and how many times has it failed.

there is your answer.

IMMORTAlMITCH · Dec 22, 2008, 11:39 PM // 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by melandrus elite

If these two guilds (both arguably the best GvG guilds in guild wars) faced off with their allstar line-ups who do you guys think would win.

I wouldn't describe rawras 'best', 'most successful' maybe, but not best.

To answer your question though, rawr would win, WMs builds/playstyle won't work nowadays.

subarucar · Dec 23, 2008, 12:25 AM // 00:25

WM are an old guild, players of their skill level are now seen in top 200 guilds as people learn with time. Also they would need time to adjust to the meta. Rawr would win, but it wouldnt be a fair fight, similiar to a medievel soldier fighting a fully trained marine.

RiceCream · Dec 23, 2008, 12:57 AM // 00:57

you saw when EviL came back... they were complete trash.

Antares Ascending · Dec 23, 2008, 01:44 AM // 01:44

Interesting to see the compaisons made. WAR isn't going to be successful because they are old? WAR isn't winning for the samreason EVIL isn't winning any more. The player base in both guilds has changed some for one. A winning team at anything depends on having the right players together at the right time in the players lives. Both WAR and EVIL had the same chance as anyone else did in their time, everyone had the same tools to work with and they were on top. Its as impossible to say weather or not the original teams would have been as successful in todays world of pvp as any top guild of today would have been as successful in their time against them with the tools of the day. My hat is off to both guilds of old in that they were the best of the best.
People argue the same thing in modern sports. Would Babe Ruth have done well in todays world of baseball? Who knows..the game is different.

Div · Dec 23, 2008, 02:24 AM // 02:24

This is quite possibly one of the most ambiguous and most asked question ever.

In today's meta, rawr would undoubtedly beat WM, given how much more practice they've had and how well they know the game now. In fact, you could take the same players from WM who haven't played for years and they'd lose to most top 100 guilds today. 2 years ago, WM would easily destroy the team composed of whoever is in rawr today (as evidenced by the fact that WM was one of the top guilds back then and most of rawr's players were just in top 50 guilds).